so habs geschafft und werde euch nun meine absoluten tiefpunkte liefern......schon wahnsinn was ich manchmal mach
ich möchte mit einer hand beginnen die wohl einen absoluten tiefpunkt darstellt. btw. haltet euch das vor augen: diese hand spielte ich paradoxerweise an einem tag, an dem ich am ende ein riesen tagesplus verzeichnen konnte - und ich war am ende auf dem tisch sogar 8€ up das ist sehr sick (tagesplus 48,33€).......
#1 katastrophe
ich möcht dazu nichts sagen.....allein das ich noch fast 6euro am river wegschmeiße ist unfassbar...
#2 so schlecht...
der river.....das ist für mich das schlimmste an der hand - ich hab genau null nachgedacht und wieder unnötig geld verprasst
#3 so kanns halt auch laufen mit suited aces.....aber auch nur weil ich dumm war
die hand auch von vorn bis hinten total mies......nur eins: wenn ich den flop schon raise warum nur minimum? the same thing on fourth street.....................*mir auf den kopf hau*
ich weiß nicht was ich oft mal mach
#4 nächster tiefpunkt
die hand auch komplette katastrophe- ich mein: ich schlage hier genau nichts mit meinem mini flush das ist wirklich NULL denken nur deppat spielen - ärgert mich immer noch maßlos
und natürlich fehler am turn......schaß slow-play
Coming soon: die besten bad beats die ich ausgeteilt habe ;-)
Dienstag, 10. November 2009
Sonntag, 8. November 2009
Review Teil 2: die schönsten hände......
so ich setze meinen rückblick fort und komme jetzt zu den schönsten händen die ich bis jetzt gespielt habe:
#1 I love w2d :)
ich könnt gegen den min raiser sogar hinten gewesen sein.....aber was solls folden kann ich das am flop sowieso nicht. und der andere mitspieler LOL LOL und noch einmal LOL......leider findet man so fische nicht mehr so oft; wobei die hand ist noch nicht solang her - 2. September 2009
#2 ich glaub eine herrlichere situation gibts nicht
einfach nur zum genießen.....vor allem, dass ich sie noch so ausnehmen kann war doch überraschend
#3 ein bisschen FONTI-Money ;-)
hand ist jetzt korrekt dargestellt!
#4 I love my suited Aces! *g*
ok ich glaub das topt hand #2 noch bei weitem. das war mit abstand die geilste situation bis jetzt bei win2day
glg euer doc
coming soon: die schlechtesten hände die ich bis jetzt gespielt habe......(das wird krass kann ich euch versprechen - oft bin ich ein oba mega fisch)
PS: ich suche grad die schlechten hände raus und naja ich hab zwar welche gefunden aber ich kann unter den 35k händen leider die passende history dazu (noch) nicht finden bin schon sehr ratlos
hab aber diese coole hand noch gefunden....
# AA
#1 I love w2d :)
ich könnt gegen den min raiser sogar hinten gewesen sein.....aber was solls folden kann ich das am flop sowieso nicht. und der andere mitspieler LOL LOL und noch einmal LOL......leider findet man so fische nicht mehr so oft; wobei die hand ist noch nicht solang her - 2. September 2009
#2 ich glaub eine herrlichere situation gibts nicht
einfach nur zum genießen.....vor allem, dass ich sie noch so ausnehmen kann war doch überraschend
#3 ein bisschen FONTI-Money ;-)
hand ist jetzt korrekt dargestellt!
#4 I love my suited Aces! *g*
ok ich glaub das topt hand #2 noch bei weitem. das war mit abstand die geilste situation bis jetzt bei win2day
glg euer doc
coming soon: die schlechtesten hände die ich bis jetzt gespielt habe......(das wird krass kann ich euch versprechen - oft bin ich ein oba mega fisch)
PS: ich suche grad die schlechten hände raus und naja ich hab zwar welche gefunden aber ich kann unter den 35k händen leider die passende history dazu (noch) nicht finden bin schon sehr ratlos
hab aber diese coole hand noch gefunden....
# AA
Review Teil 1: Die schlimmsten Bad beats/Niederlagen die ich bekommen habe
ich beginne meinen rückblick wie angekündigt mit den schlimmsten bad beats bzw. den schlimmsten niederlagen die ich bis jetzt erlitten habe (ich muss dazu sagen, dass ich mich in erster linie mal auf bei w2d erlittene bad beats/niederlagen konzentriere da ich die in live game erlittenen leider meistens nicht genau rekonstruieren kann...und maniac ob du es glaubst oder nicht: die 10 9 zählt bei weitem nicht zum schlimmsten.....leider..... :( )
ich beginne (ohne reihung) mit einer hand die mich an fontaene's 88 in seinem letzten post erinnert:
niederlage #1
[schlicht und einfach: ich bin hier komplett machtlos] - wobei:....das lolige: ich seh grad ich bin am flop broke gegangen somit ist das gleich auch eine der schlechtesten hände die ich bis jetzt gespielt habe. denn in multiway pot nicht mal top two das ist einfach mies und obendrein ist es KEIN Bad beat sondern eine niederlage
tät ich am turn all in gehen wärs eher ok...........*mir drei mal auf den kopf hau*
bad beat #2
sowas ist einfach nur eine riesenfrechheit. aber ich will ja gegen solche leute spielen. das viel schlimmere an der hand: nachdem sie luckt schreibt einer rein nice one und grats......und genau bei solchen kommentaren kommt mir erst alles hoch....
niederlage #3
der typ war ein spezieller donk. er ging wenn er eine hand spielte immer all in. und das war jede 2te bis 3te hand der fall......ja was soll ich tun? preflop all in ist gegen den standard. und traumflop (war ja mit K meilenweit vorraus) und dann werd ich halt in grund und boden verarscht!
so ich würd sagen, das waren die schlimmsten bad beats/niederlagen die ich bis jetzt erlitten habe. es gab zwar auch set over set dinger aber ich empfinde die oberen drei als schlimmer.....bzw. die erste hand wohl gleichzeitig eine der größten dummheiten die man machen kann....
glg
euer doc
coming soon: die (drei) schönsten hände
ich beginne (ohne reihung) mit einer hand die mich an fontaene's 88 in seinem letzten post erinnert:
niederlage #1
[schlicht und einfach: ich bin hier komplett machtlos] - wobei:....das lolige: ich seh grad ich bin am flop broke gegangen somit ist das gleich auch eine der schlechtesten hände die ich bis jetzt gespielt habe. denn in multiway pot nicht mal top two das ist einfach mies und obendrein ist es KEIN Bad beat sondern eine niederlage
tät ich am turn all in gehen wärs eher ok...........*mir drei mal auf den kopf hau*
bad beat #2
sowas ist einfach nur eine riesenfrechheit. aber ich will ja gegen solche leute spielen. das viel schlimmere an der hand: nachdem sie luckt schreibt einer rein nice one und grats......und genau bei solchen kommentaren kommt mir erst alles hoch....
niederlage #3
der typ war ein spezieller donk. er ging wenn er eine hand spielte immer all in. und das war jede 2te bis 3te hand der fall......ja was soll ich tun? preflop all in ist gegen den standard. und traumflop (war ja mit K meilenweit vorraus) und dann werd ich halt in grund und boden verarscht!
so ich würd sagen, das waren die schlimmsten bad beats/niederlagen die ich bis jetzt erlitten habe. es gab zwar auch set over set dinger aber ich empfinde die oberen drei als schlimmer.....bzw. die erste hand wohl gleichzeitig eine der größten dummheiten die man machen kann....
glg
euer doc
coming soon: die (drei) schönsten hände
ein persönlicher rückblick....
auf meine bisherige pokerkarriere! ja das will ich mit diesem post starten.
und zwar will ich auf hände zurückblicken. sowohl welche die gut für mcih verliefen als auch solche die mies für mich liefen.
kategorien:
1. Die schönsten Hände die ich je gespielt habe (also in welcher hand habe ich viel gewinn gemacht oder die situation war einfach so wunderbar :) )
2. Die schlimmsten Bad beats/Niederlagen die ich bekommen habe
3. Die besten Hände die ich je gespielt habe (da gehts darum, dass ich mein spiel in diesen händen als gut befinde; egal ob ich was verloren hab oder gewonnen hab)
4. Die besten Bad beats die ich verteilt habe *hehe*
5. Die schlechtesten Hände die ich je gespielt habe (hier gehts um dummheiten und tiltheiten die mir von zeit zu zeit passieren)
in meinem nächsten post werde ich wohl mit den schlimmsten bad beats beginnen.....
hoffe ihr freut euch schon drauf *fg*
und zwar will ich auf hände zurückblicken. sowohl welche die gut für mcih verliefen als auch solche die mies für mich liefen.
kategorien:
1. Die schönsten Hände die ich je gespielt habe (also in welcher hand habe ich viel gewinn gemacht oder die situation war einfach so wunderbar :) )
2. Die schlimmsten Bad beats/Niederlagen die ich bekommen habe
3. Die besten Hände die ich je gespielt habe (da gehts darum, dass ich mein spiel in diesen händen als gut befinde; egal ob ich was verloren hab oder gewonnen hab)
4. Die besten Bad beats die ich verteilt habe *hehe*
5. Die schlechtesten Hände die ich je gespielt habe (hier gehts um dummheiten und tiltheiten die mir von zeit zu zeit passieren)
in meinem nächsten post werde ich wohl mit den schlimmsten bad beats beginnen.....
hoffe ihr freut euch schon drauf *fg*
Samstag, 7. November 2009
continuation ...
... no, not bet .. it's post :) as I promised you, here's the continuation of my latest entry, a bit late as I wanted to bring it yesterday, but I came home quite late and today I had a bunch of work before I found some time now.
so the important hands of that session I reported of .. here we go!
we were in a pot with 5 limps and I found 85 suited in spades, calling it too, as I was eventually faced a raise to 19 (ok a bit much, but ok in relation this evening) from my left neighbour and noticed one call two seats later .. folding around to me then, .. so it was my turn now .. don't know why, just a little feeling in my stomach for sure, but I took the chips and made an instacall ... to be honest that's real gambling, I know! the chance of getting some spades here or maybe being in front if there comes something for a straight, .. ok it's quite nonsense to think about .. in the relation of the raise and my hand ... seldomly did something like that in the card room and especially for that amount of money! so we were 3 players to see the flop and this one came down 678 with 67 in spades ... booooom! so here I was, flopping the straight flush draw, hitting the top pair and getting some outs on normal straights too, .. several options here of course, even thinking about the high hand jackpot of 100 euros (but I think that wasn't the thing I was looking for here) .. first to act was caller no. 1, who made a bet of 32 (so far I remember it right) into the pot of some 70 bucks. next one to act .. me! I took some moment, grab my chips and play little with them, the normal show or hollywood .. wanted to look quite focused too .. and after some 20-30 seconds I pushed it all in with my total stack of 82 bucks. ... and both players folded .. btw quite quickly, so it was the right move in my opinion ... or better said not only a good read. what if I just flat call the bet, maybe left to me does too for odds? maybe on the turn I have a more difficult decission or gonna be faced the all in of the other player, which isn't easy to call then, with a pot of over 130 bucks and only 50 behind .. which means it would have made 50 for a total pot of 230? hm ... so it was my state of play, how I thought it's right .. why not push all in on such a draw and quite good hand in my eyes. so this brought me nearly 100 bucks on the flop, ... and I even showed my "semi-bluff" and draw .. which made them blush :D ... got some comments like .. "nice call for 19 pre-flop" or "why not playing for the jackpot high hand" .. and so on as you could imagine ;) ... but I like this hand very much!
more important later on, when another regular, lets call him J., joined the table and we had the first bigger hand against each other, was when I got dealt K7 suited in diamonds. left side raised to 10, my opponent J. and I call this raise. we see a flop of 7Tx (don't remember the third one) with two diamonds. opponent is first to act and bets 12 into the pot of some 30 bucks or so. my turn now .. and I raise, .. think a little moment and make it a total of 26 then. my thoughts: having the 7 hit and the 2nd nuts flush draw is a good idea to controll the pot with a little raise, not to loose him, maybe even get the guy to my left into the pot too (maybe both with a pocket or just ideas too, hm) .. so left one wasn't interested in my thoughts, but opponent J. called. turn: Ace of diamond! jackpot baby, .. nuts! :) J. checks to me and I make a quick decision to play it really nasty or better said tricky .. just do it wrong, .. as you might check the nuts here to trap him on the river.. but why should I? I have the nuts, .. he might not set me on the flush or nuts flush here .. I'm not so known as player betting a flush draw or generally a draw. so I bet 33 euros into our pot of approx. 80 or some more .. good choice I think and he instacalled this one, which made me happy inside. the river blanked a 5 in clubs and he checks again. I take a look at his chips, he just had 17 behind and so I put 20 euros into the middle to set him all in .. and he eventually called it for sure .. no way he could fold on a 140 euro pot here with 17 behind .. there would have been something wrong. I was so kind and quickly turned over my nuts as don't like to slowroll ... he had a long look and really wasn't happy about what he saw on the table, ... never set me on such a big hand and I was pleased with my play again! :) so this one with about 160 came to my stack.
this was one of the last hands of this evening for me, ... I stayed for some 20 minutes more and then made it seat open with nearly 200 euros on the winning side, meaning I had a total of approx. 290 infront of me :) ... nice one and it was a great feeling to be back on the winner's side after a long time suffering!!
hope you don't mind I don't use graphics and symbols .. for me it's just easier to write it fluently like this ... maybe I'll change some day, but for now I keep it this style. have a good hand and see you soon at the tables!
so the important hands of that session I reported of .. here we go!
we were in a pot with 5 limps and I found 85 suited in spades, calling it too, as I was eventually faced a raise to 19 (ok a bit much, but ok in relation this evening) from my left neighbour and noticed one call two seats later .. folding around to me then, .. so it was my turn now .. don't know why, just a little feeling in my stomach for sure, but I took the chips and made an instacall ... to be honest that's real gambling, I know! the chance of getting some spades here or maybe being in front if there comes something for a straight, .. ok it's quite nonsense to think about .. in the relation of the raise and my hand ... seldomly did something like that in the card room and especially for that amount of money! so we were 3 players to see the flop and this one came down 678 with 67 in spades ... booooom! so here I was, flopping the straight flush draw, hitting the top pair and getting some outs on normal straights too, .. several options here of course, even thinking about the high hand jackpot of 100 euros (but I think that wasn't the thing I was looking for here) .. first to act was caller no. 1, who made a bet of 32 (so far I remember it right) into the pot of some 70 bucks. next one to act .. me! I took some moment, grab my chips and play little with them, the normal show or hollywood .. wanted to look quite focused too .. and after some 20-30 seconds I pushed it all in with my total stack of 82 bucks. ... and both players folded .. btw quite quickly, so it was the right move in my opinion ... or better said not only a good read. what if I just flat call the bet, maybe left to me does too for odds? maybe on the turn I have a more difficult decission or gonna be faced the all in of the other player, which isn't easy to call then, with a pot of over 130 bucks and only 50 behind .. which means it would have made 50 for a total pot of 230? hm ... so it was my state of play, how I thought it's right .. why not push all in on such a draw and quite good hand in my eyes. so this brought me nearly 100 bucks on the flop, ... and I even showed my "semi-bluff" and draw .. which made them blush :D ... got some comments like .. "nice call for 19 pre-flop" or "why not playing for the jackpot high hand" .. and so on as you could imagine ;) ... but I like this hand very much!
more important later on, when another regular, lets call him J., joined the table and we had the first bigger hand against each other, was when I got dealt K7 suited in diamonds. left side raised to 10, my opponent J. and I call this raise. we see a flop of 7Tx (don't remember the third one) with two diamonds. opponent is first to act and bets 12 into the pot of some 30 bucks or so. my turn now .. and I raise, .. think a little moment and make it a total of 26 then. my thoughts: having the 7 hit and the 2nd nuts flush draw is a good idea to controll the pot with a little raise, not to loose him, maybe even get the guy to my left into the pot too (maybe both with a pocket or just ideas too, hm) .. so left one wasn't interested in my thoughts, but opponent J. called. turn: Ace of diamond! jackpot baby, .. nuts! :) J. checks to me and I make a quick decision to play it really nasty or better said tricky .. just do it wrong, .. as you might check the nuts here to trap him on the river.. but why should I? I have the nuts, .. he might not set me on the flush or nuts flush here .. I'm not so known as player betting a flush draw or generally a draw. so I bet 33 euros into our pot of approx. 80 or some more .. good choice I think and he instacalled this one, which made me happy inside. the river blanked a 5 in clubs and he checks again. I take a look at his chips, he just had 17 behind and so I put 20 euros into the middle to set him all in .. and he eventually called it for sure .. no way he could fold on a 140 euro pot here with 17 behind .. there would have been something wrong. I was so kind and quickly turned over my nuts as don't like to slowroll ... he had a long look and really wasn't happy about what he saw on the table, ... never set me on such a big hand and I was pleased with my play again! :) so this one with about 160 came to my stack.
this was one of the last hands of this evening for me, ... I stayed for some 20 minutes more and then made it seat open with nearly 200 euros on the winning side, meaning I had a total of approx. 290 infront of me :) ... nice one and it was a great feeling to be back on the winner's side after a long time suffering!!
hope you don't mind I don't use graphics and symbols .. for me it's just easier to write it fluently like this ... maybe I'll change some day, but for now I keep it this style. have a good hand and see you soon at the tables!
getting crushed at FTP
I'm sure docwu will love it as he always likes to see me suffer. It is really painful.
I am now intending to concentrate my online-activity on FTP because by begging and praying I managed to get rakeback there. But as you can see from my graph my first two sessions were quite devastating. Definitely I ran under EV there but some spots were quite tricky and I am sure to sometimes not have acted fully correct. Feedback, feedback, please.
http://weaktight.com/1674068
In the battle of the blinds I feel like I can slowplay QQ from time to time preflop against a short-stack. Flop is pretty ugly but I am happy to jam it here nevertheless. Had 67,5% equity.
http://weaktight.com/1674074
If I were the villain in that hand I'd be pretty embarrassed.
http://weaktight.com/1674069
Tough decicion and very tricky. Preflop call is pretty standard, I could have raised the flop but I'd say the call is fine also for it is quite deceptive. When villain checks the turn I am dead sure he has TT, QQ or KK. Therefore I bet so small trying to keep him in the hand. Then he shoves the river and my hand feels pretty weak. Still I called. I don't know. Ugly.
http://weaktight.com/1674070
My own fault. That's what you get from slowplaying. No, I'd say it is ok here since villain was a good player and I don't really get a lot of value from any hand here. I must not have called the river but he made a good bet and the odds were so tempting.
http://weaktight.com/1674073
WOW! The turn-card is officially the worst card I ever experienced in poker. Just terrible. Nevertheless, I was concerned with him having 65, but I figured he would also play the hand the same way if he had 77 or 44. As I calculated right now [if I define his range as 65s, 77 and 44] I am a 60%-favourite and therefore am supposed the stick it in on the river. However, I am not really sure if he plays a set this way and maybe would have been better off just calling. I don't think folding is really an option here, right?
http://weaktight.com/1674072
No words. Played it fine. But I can't really bet the river and his hand was also very strong all the way, so I can't really complain.
I'd suggest you guys try to run better!
- Roland Fritz
session with docwu - recap
By the end of september, shortly before I left to Graz again, I had the immense joy and honour to play a session togehter with docwu. We were grinding the 0.05/0.1 NL cash-games on w2d, on his comupter, with my money. We were 6-tabeling most of the time and played rather solid, despite this we ended up breaking even after 2 hours time of play. See what happened.
QQ: Interesting hand imo. We check the flop for pot control here. After villain checks behind the turn we are pretty sure we have the best hand. J on the river is a great card to value bet, still, we are in bet/fold - mode here, for he can sometimes check back an ace on the turn and then pop the river. In this situation we concluded that he had somehow hit the J or called us down with something like 77-TT, not believing.
AK: BAAAAAAMMMMMM! When you 3bet preflop, you have to continuation-bet most of the time. Guessing that villain had something like AK or AQ himself here.
KJ: Classic raise for a free card. Works out pretty well here.
QQ: Tough laydown. But villain is known to be such a tight player. We really hated this spot for we were guessing that he would also raise TT and JJ here just to gain information. Despite that we gave him credit for a bigger hand and setteled on the variance-reducing fold. There surely are better spots to be found than this one.
AQ: Pretty standard on our part. Flop is great, turn a bit ambigous for we have the nut flush draw but villain might have improved to trip eights or a flush. But we can't fold to his minraise anyway. River is the best possible card for us, even better that villain donks into us and calls our shove. But with what hand? No hand really justifies his play there. He can bet/fold an 8 here, but he can't really bet/call. And a flush of course isn't worth anything on the river anymore.
JJ: Good calldown obviously. But in that case, if villain bets so small, we don't really have a choice. Pretty standard outcome. Still, we could have continuation-betted the flop. Might be that this is even the better play in the long run.
66: That hand ruined our session. Up to this point we were up about 160BB and lost it all in this hand. We might have kept our profit if we decide the raise the flop here, but on the other hand, with this board it is really fine to slowplay. We didn't know our villain and were not sure if he would be able to fold a hand like AK or AA if we raised right away. So we decided to let him bet into us three times (assuming he has a big one-pair hand) and then let the trap snap on the river when he maybe can't fold anymore because of pot-odds and/or curiousity. When he overshoves the river we were a bit concerd of course, mainly with him having KK, but as we didn't know if was a donkey or not, the word 'laydown' is not really in our vocabulary there. We would have never expected him to have 77 there, obviously.
So on the whole it was a very nice session. I feel like we made almost zero mistakes and still did not make any profit. Well, this is how it works in poker sometimes.
- Roland Fritz
QQ: Interesting hand imo. We check the flop for pot control here. After villain checks behind the turn we are pretty sure we have the best hand. J on the river is a great card to value bet, still, we are in bet/fold - mode here, for he can sometimes check back an ace on the turn and then pop the river. In this situation we concluded that he had somehow hit the J or called us down with something like 77-TT, not believing.
AK: BAAAAAAMMMMMM! When you 3bet preflop, you have to continuation-bet most of the time. Guessing that villain had something like AK or AQ himself here.
KJ: Classic raise for a free card. Works out pretty well here.
QQ: Tough laydown. But villain is known to be such a tight player. We really hated this spot for we were guessing that he would also raise TT and JJ here just to gain information. Despite that we gave him credit for a bigger hand and setteled on the variance-reducing fold. There surely are better spots to be found than this one.
AQ: Pretty standard on our part. Flop is great, turn a bit ambigous for we have the nut flush draw but villain might have improved to trip eights or a flush. But we can't fold to his minraise anyway. River is the best possible card for us, even better that villain donks into us and calls our shove. But with what hand? No hand really justifies his play there. He can bet/fold an 8 here, but he can't really bet/call. And a flush of course isn't worth anything on the river anymore.
JJ: Good calldown obviously. But in that case, if villain bets so small, we don't really have a choice. Pretty standard outcome. Still, we could have continuation-betted the flop. Might be that this is even the better play in the long run.
66: That hand ruined our session. Up to this point we were up about 160BB and lost it all in this hand. We might have kept our profit if we decide the raise the flop here, but on the other hand, with this board it is really fine to slowplay. We didn't know our villain and were not sure if he would be able to fold a hand like AK or AA if we raised right away. So we decided to let him bet into us three times (assuming he has a big one-pair hand) and then let the trap snap on the river when he maybe can't fold anymore because of pot-odds and/or curiousity. When he overshoves the river we were a bit concerd of course, mainly with him having KK, but as we didn't know if was a donkey or not, the word 'laydown' is not really in our vocabulary there. We would have never expected him to have 77 there, obviously.
So on the whole it was a very nice session. I feel like we made almost zero mistakes and still did not make any profit. Well, this is how it works in poker sometimes.
- Roland Fritz
Freitag, 6. November 2009
played my a-game ..
.. and was successful :)
some little report from my latest visit at the jps card room, this time I got the cards, I hit the board and had the right timing! a detailed report would be way too long, but nevertheless this won't be summarized in two lines ;)
first of all, the conditions: a table (most time full ring with 10 guys) mixed with regulars (me and two others I know quite good, later on a 3rd one added) and some young guns (only knew one of them, rest was really this sort of "I'm young, I have to play poker and think I know the game" guys) ... some of the young guns also thought it's good to party there, so they ordered a bottle of vodka and some bottles of juice for themselves and their ladies ... ok those 3 boys ;) and their two ladies (aaarrrr they were quite hot) had to celebrate a birthday and from the way they looked .. with expensive shirts, pullovers and stylish scarfs .. I knew they will loose haha :D
ok here we go .. start was 5 or 6-handed, then the 3 "posh boys" showed up and joined, this was when we already lost on of the young ones. to explain it a bit: most of the regulars normally buy-in with 100 or more, the young ones only take 50 (most of the time, seldomly there's a guy with a full stack) and try to double up or make it more in a short time .. so you could imagine the regulars often try to get them or show them "how to play" and make aggressive plays. 2nd to explain .. raises of 7 or 8 (which means 4BB as we played 1/2) is quite sure to be paid by about 5-7 people if the first 2 after the raiser call, .. that's normal shit today ;) ... so the standard raise was 13 or more .. normally between 13 to 19 euros if there were some limpers .. reraises preflop, normally over 20 up to 35 or so. just to get you an impression. the table was ok and quite easy to play, .. and when you get the cards, you get the money ;)
so in the early phase it was my idea to play it tight and try to figure out how good the young guns are, if the try to play aggressive too or if they just want to leave their money on the table ;) ... I played some hands, lost some bucks, got some back and then got the first bigger one when I had KJ in late position and raised it to 8 (as you see, not a big raise here, but a try to get some out of the hand) and only got one call in the big blind, so it was heads up. the flop came down with a King, think it was T and 8 on the rest .. I made a contibet for 10 which my opponent called, river was a blank to me and nevertheless I checked ... and he bet 30 bucks into me, which started me thinking what he could have, if I'm beat here .. could he have AK or maybe J9 for the open-ender, I don't know .. so I went into tank for some minute and then re-raised all in for a total of 42 ... it's just logic he will call the 12 difference, that's what I knew and I was sure I might not have the best hand here, ... he called as I predicted, but he added "ok I have nothing so far, you are in front) the river blanked and I won with my pair of kings. in the meantime .. I'm not sure why I checked, maybe I was a bit scared by his instacall on the flop. so I was back again, up to some 130 I remember.
next bigger hand was when I had QQ and raised it to, hm I don't know .. 13 or 15, .. got two calls and saw a flop with ten high, maybe some straight draw or flush draw on it, can't remember exactly. just know I contibetted, next one mucked and the other guy (one from the vodka connection with a stylish scarf and wet hair, haha) shoved all in, .. and I called. in the end I made a full house with QQQTT, when the 3rd queen came in on the river .. nice pot, which brought me up over 200 I think. directly next hand after this I got dealt KK .. wow, what a blast, ... again I raised and again got two calls, same like before. ok no credit to me ;) haha. this time the flop was dry again, no see I have to be afraid .. interesting here, I was faced a raise of 30 or 40 from the next one to act, sitting to my left, .. the vodka guy again pushed all in for a total of 62 he had behind, ... and now I was next to act and wanted to push too, but it wasn't sure if I'm allowed to, anyways left to me wanted to go all in too, and so we agreed to be all in all three ... don't ask how it was executed (I also just got some thoughts, I might remember it false and I was the one betting 30 on the flop, getting called and reraised the 62 all in, with left to me having a total of 88 and so it was 48 behind or so .. ok who cares, it was too fast to remember) .. in the end the vodka guy had nothing .. ok he had 98 :D and hit the 9 on the flop .. nice play sir ;) .. but left to me had aces and so my kings got cracked .. nice slow-play, .. but it was ok, as he's a good player and a friend of mine (ok not such a friend, I know what you might think of "friends" when we battle each other on the table for hundreds of bucks).
so I eventually was down to 125 again, after just hitting best the hand before .. but I wasn't able to lay down my kings here, .. no way. that's poker. I later on this evening had KK and QQ two times again, .. KK just got some blinds and two limps pre flop, and I showed the kings .. everyone now saw I get cards this evening ;) ... the QQ I raised to 13 and got a call from an old school-mate of mine, who showed up on the meantime and took the chair of mr. vodka ;) who was seat open after those two hands mentioned above. I hit a set of queens on the flop but bet as there was flush draw out there, he called and as a third diamond hit the turn I checked to controll the pot, he checked too, which I hoped for. the river blanked but as I had show down value, I didn't bet anything .. ok some 15 or 17 bucks would have been nice. he checked and said "you have something like AK or so, right" (btw the river was a King) and I turned over my set .. which made his face "interesting", as he thought I wasn't the strong here... but he also wasn't able to beat AK I think. anyways, nice little pot.
the two most important pots of the day or better said, for me the most well played ones, will follow soon .. for now I don't have time as I have to leave for university, but be sure, I'll be back with some interesting card action from this session later in the evening!
.. to be continued
some little report from my latest visit at the jps card room, this time I got the cards, I hit the board and had the right timing! a detailed report would be way too long, but nevertheless this won't be summarized in two lines ;)
first of all, the conditions: a table (most time full ring with 10 guys) mixed with regulars (me and two others I know quite good, later on a 3rd one added) and some young guns (only knew one of them, rest was really this sort of "I'm young, I have to play poker and think I know the game" guys) ... some of the young guns also thought it's good to party there, so they ordered a bottle of vodka and some bottles of juice for themselves and their ladies ... ok those 3 boys ;) and their two ladies (aaarrrr they were quite hot) had to celebrate a birthday and from the way they looked .. with expensive shirts, pullovers and stylish scarfs .. I knew they will loose haha :D
ok here we go .. start was 5 or 6-handed, then the 3 "posh boys" showed up and joined, this was when we already lost on of the young ones. to explain it a bit: most of the regulars normally buy-in with 100 or more, the young ones only take 50 (most of the time, seldomly there's a guy with a full stack) and try to double up or make it more in a short time .. so you could imagine the regulars often try to get them or show them "how to play" and make aggressive plays. 2nd to explain .. raises of 7 or 8 (which means 4BB as we played 1/2) is quite sure to be paid by about 5-7 people if the first 2 after the raiser call, .. that's normal shit today ;) ... so the standard raise was 13 or more .. normally between 13 to 19 euros if there were some limpers .. reraises preflop, normally over 20 up to 35 or so. just to get you an impression. the table was ok and quite easy to play, .. and when you get the cards, you get the money ;)
so in the early phase it was my idea to play it tight and try to figure out how good the young guns are, if the try to play aggressive too or if they just want to leave their money on the table ;) ... I played some hands, lost some bucks, got some back and then got the first bigger one when I had KJ in late position and raised it to 8 (as you see, not a big raise here, but a try to get some out of the hand) and only got one call in the big blind, so it was heads up. the flop came down with a King, think it was T and 8 on the rest .. I made a contibet for 10 which my opponent called, river was a blank to me and nevertheless I checked ... and he bet 30 bucks into me, which started me thinking what he could have, if I'm beat here .. could he have AK or maybe J9 for the open-ender, I don't know .. so I went into tank for some minute and then re-raised all in for a total of 42 ... it's just logic he will call the 12 difference, that's what I knew and I was sure I might not have the best hand here, ... he called as I predicted, but he added "ok I have nothing so far, you are in front) the river blanked and I won with my pair of kings. in the meantime .. I'm not sure why I checked, maybe I was a bit scared by his instacall on the flop. so I was back again, up to some 130 I remember.
next bigger hand was when I had QQ and raised it to, hm I don't know .. 13 or 15, .. got two calls and saw a flop with ten high, maybe some straight draw or flush draw on it, can't remember exactly. just know I contibetted, next one mucked and the other guy (one from the vodka connection with a stylish scarf and wet hair, haha) shoved all in, .. and I called. in the end I made a full house with QQQTT, when the 3rd queen came in on the river .. nice pot, which brought me up over 200 I think. directly next hand after this I got dealt KK .. wow, what a blast, ... again I raised and again got two calls, same like before. ok no credit to me ;) haha. this time the flop was dry again, no see I have to be afraid .. interesting here, I was faced a raise of 30 or 40 from the next one to act, sitting to my left, .. the vodka guy again pushed all in for a total of 62 he had behind, ... and now I was next to act and wanted to push too, but it wasn't sure if I'm allowed to, anyways left to me wanted to go all in too, and so we agreed to be all in all three ... don't ask how it was executed (I also just got some thoughts, I might remember it false and I was the one betting 30 on the flop, getting called and reraised the 62 all in, with left to me having a total of 88 and so it was 48 behind or so .. ok who cares, it was too fast to remember) .. in the end the vodka guy had nothing .. ok he had 98 :D and hit the 9 on the flop .. nice play sir ;) .. but left to me had aces and so my kings got cracked .. nice slow-play, .. but it was ok, as he's a good player and a friend of mine (ok not such a friend, I know what you might think of "friends" when we battle each other on the table for hundreds of bucks).
so I eventually was down to 125 again, after just hitting best the hand before .. but I wasn't able to lay down my kings here, .. no way. that's poker. I later on this evening had KK and QQ two times again, .. KK just got some blinds and two limps pre flop, and I showed the kings .. everyone now saw I get cards this evening ;) ... the QQ I raised to 13 and got a call from an old school-mate of mine, who showed up on the meantime and took the chair of mr. vodka ;) who was seat open after those two hands mentioned above. I hit a set of queens on the flop but bet as there was flush draw out there, he called and as a third diamond hit the turn I checked to controll the pot, he checked too, which I hoped for. the river blanked but as I had show down value, I didn't bet anything .. ok some 15 or 17 bucks would have been nice. he checked and said "you have something like AK or so, right" (btw the river was a King) and I turned over my set .. which made his face "interesting", as he thought I wasn't the strong here... but he also wasn't able to beat AK I think. anyways, nice little pot.
the two most important pots of the day or better said, for me the most well played ones, will follow soon .. for now I don't have time as I have to leave for university, but be sure, I'll be back with some interesting card action from this session later in the evening!
.. to be continued
Mittwoch, 4. November 2009
eine session mal wieder....
hallo.........
nach einiger zeit, in der ich keine lust für das pokerspiel entwickeln konnte, melde ich mich wieder mal mit einer erfolgreichen w2d session........am ende +15€
ich habe ja ein neues "projekt"......hab mich in letzter zeit intensiver mit dem shorthanded play beschäftigt und zocke nun immer 2-3 5er + die üblichen 2-3 (oder mehr^^) 10er tische.......
und ich muss sagen: auf den 5er tischen laufen noch spieler herum OMG.....aber gut für mich und es ist cool zu sehen, dass ich auf einmal 18€ am tisch hab aber keine große hand gespielt hab. so nach dem motto kleinvieh macht auch mist. es wollen halt sehr viele spieler oft sehr gern den flop sehen und somit ist das spiel vor allem IP sehr easy und profitabel.......ein paar beispiele gefällig?
gut ich schau mal was ich machen kann :)
beginnen werd ich aber mit einem bösen bösen set up..........
leider hat mein pc bzw. irgendwas anderes *g* die history gefressen also:
ich raise (am sh-tisch) vom button 45s auf 45c UTG-limper callt
flop 5 5 7 ..........und am river kam auch noch meine 4 ich will gar nicht weiter schreiben ;-) auf jeden fall hatte der limper leider 77 und ein stack weg aber ok.............session trotzdem "nur" -4€ also ist verkraftbar
#2: leider easy fold...
#3 geniale turn karte
#4 sowas geht halt auch oft :)
btw. ist alles ABC-Poker - aber ich finds cool, dass es so gut klappt ;-)
#5 auch sowas funzt mal...
naja insgesamt bin ich zufrieden und hoffe, dass es weiter so gut läuft auf den sh-tischen.......es ist ganz ein anderes spiel als auf den full ring tischen (no-na-nicht ;-) ) und das macht es irgendwie witzig und spannend
bis bald
euer doc
nach einiger zeit, in der ich keine lust für das pokerspiel entwickeln konnte, melde ich mich wieder mal mit einer erfolgreichen w2d session........am ende +15€
ich habe ja ein neues "projekt"......hab mich in letzter zeit intensiver mit dem shorthanded play beschäftigt und zocke nun immer 2-3 5er + die üblichen 2-3 (oder mehr^^) 10er tische.......
und ich muss sagen: auf den 5er tischen laufen noch spieler herum OMG.....aber gut für mich und es ist cool zu sehen, dass ich auf einmal 18€ am tisch hab aber keine große hand gespielt hab. so nach dem motto kleinvieh macht auch mist. es wollen halt sehr viele spieler oft sehr gern den flop sehen und somit ist das spiel vor allem IP sehr easy und profitabel.......ein paar beispiele gefällig?
gut ich schau mal was ich machen kann :)
beginnen werd ich aber mit einem bösen bösen set up..........
leider hat mein pc bzw. irgendwas anderes *g* die history gefressen also:
ich raise (am sh-tisch) vom button 45s auf 45c UTG-limper callt
flop 5 5 7 ..........und am river kam auch noch meine 4 ich will gar nicht weiter schreiben ;-) auf jeden fall hatte der limper leider 77 und ein stack weg aber ok.............session trotzdem "nur" -4€ also ist verkraftbar
#2: leider easy fold...
#3 geniale turn karte
#4 sowas geht halt auch oft :)
btw. ist alles ABC-Poker - aber ich finds cool, dass es so gut klappt ;-)
#5 auch sowas funzt mal...
naja insgesamt bin ich zufrieden und hoffe, dass es weiter so gut läuft auf den sh-tischen.......es ist ganz ein anderes spiel als auf den full ring tischen (no-na-nicht ;-) ) und das macht es irgendwie witzig und spannend
bis bald
euer doc
Montag, 2. November 2009
about truth/change in poker
Since I have been pretty sick last week I watched a ton of videos taken from high-stakes cash games. [PAD, million dollar cash-game, online games at FTP] And, to my surprise, I could notice some major changes in the games of some of the players.
But before this some thoughts about truth/change in general. I feel like truth is something that in the world we are living right now is something that is very difficoult if not impossible to find. Most connection are so complex and also human relations within eachother have to be seen as variable most of the time, so that, at least find it hard to realize certain things as absoulute or perfectly fitting to certain needs. You can maybe see what I mean by taking a brief look at the job market, where, in the past, it was usual for a person to work in the same job a whole life long. This is something that noone of our generation most likely will experience. And also ideologies and beliefs differ and change so much. Where in the past in Austria you mainly had the Catholic Church as a despenser of univeral beliefs and orientation, what do you have today? The Church has lost most of it's power and every individual has to find or define truth for itself. But emotions and thoughts of individuals do normally change from time to time, which implicates that also individual truth changes.
By my means, in modern culture, it is all about change, adaptation and adjustment. Just take a look at Barack Obama and his election campaign.
An institution where you might find truth or something similar is science, or at least the natural sciences. It is hard to imagine that the law of gravitation will change so quickly or that the structure of molecules will be discovered to be totally different than it was thought to be up to this point. I guess this might be some of the elements of life that can be titulized as true. Of course it is not this way in the social sciences, which work and research on humans themselves, and of course, humans change, which implicates that also beliefs and views of social sciences tend to change pretty quickly.
Now to the poker part of the topic. When I started to play and follow poker in a more enthusiatic way, there was a new online-star on the rise: Tom Dwan. He won millions online by playing the so called ultra-aggressive style, getting a lot of folds from his villains, tilting them by constanly stealing and then getting paid off when finally making a hand. I have watched Tom Dwan and other young guns play, both in televised live games and online and found their interpretation of poker very interesting. However, the style they use (or used) does not really fit my play as I always do better when I play a bit more thoughful, a bit more nitty. What has changed in their style since then? Well, obviouly Tom Dwan still plays aggressive poker as aggressive play will always win you the money in the long term, and sometimes I am truely shocked about elements of his raising (62o) and 3-betting(95s) range. But I feel like that in the past the postflop action was mostly standard all the time, by standard I mean pouncing and hammering very hard at the opponent, getting him to fold somehow. The classic BAAAAAMMMMMM-strategy. This worked very well for some time I guess. But of course, the best players in the world playing in these nosebleed-games constanly analyse the game of their opponents and change their own game according to this. Over the past few month I think I have noticed some major changes:
1) The willingness to make big calls and also big laydowns has increased dramatically.
2) It is rather check/call than bet/fold on the river.
3) The rate of continution bets, especially in 3-bet-pots, has decreased.
4) Pot control has a bigger influence on the game than it used to have. [e.g. prf.rs in pos. with KTo, BB defend, flop T 5 2 two spades, BB check, prf. aggr. conti bet, BB call, turn 5, no spade, BB check --->prf.aggr. check behind] This is a pretty conservative play and I would not have expected Tom Dwan to make plays of that kind.
But I guess it is a rule in poker that you can only win if you constantly think about, change and most important, improve your game. This way you constantly keep your opponents guessing. I am looking forward to keep track of the canges in the poker world that are still to come and what I can use from what I see to stick it into my own game.
In general I feel like it is this changing nature of the game of poker that fascinates me so much. It is never quite black and white. You can never be sure about anything. That is tough. But, If you are good at it, you can make life much tougher for your opponents than it is for you.
Cheers and all the best,
- Roland Fritz
But before this some thoughts about truth/change in general. I feel like truth is something that in the world we are living right now is something that is very difficoult if not impossible to find. Most connection are so complex and also human relations within eachother have to be seen as variable most of the time, so that, at least find it hard to realize certain things as absoulute or perfectly fitting to certain needs. You can maybe see what I mean by taking a brief look at the job market, where, in the past, it was usual for a person to work in the same job a whole life long. This is something that noone of our generation most likely will experience. And also ideologies and beliefs differ and change so much. Where in the past in Austria you mainly had the Catholic Church as a despenser of univeral beliefs and orientation, what do you have today? The Church has lost most of it's power and every individual has to find or define truth for itself. But emotions and thoughts of individuals do normally change from time to time, which implicates that also individual truth changes.
By my means, in modern culture, it is all about change, adaptation and adjustment. Just take a look at Barack Obama and his election campaign.
An institution where you might find truth or something similar is science, or at least the natural sciences. It is hard to imagine that the law of gravitation will change so quickly or that the structure of molecules will be discovered to be totally different than it was thought to be up to this point. I guess this might be some of the elements of life that can be titulized as true. Of course it is not this way in the social sciences, which work and research on humans themselves, and of course, humans change, which implicates that also beliefs and views of social sciences tend to change pretty quickly.
Now to the poker part of the topic. When I started to play and follow poker in a more enthusiatic way, there was a new online-star on the rise: Tom Dwan. He won millions online by playing the so called ultra-aggressive style, getting a lot of folds from his villains, tilting them by constanly stealing and then getting paid off when finally making a hand. I have watched Tom Dwan and other young guns play, both in televised live games and online and found their interpretation of poker very interesting. However, the style they use (or used) does not really fit my play as I always do better when I play a bit more thoughful, a bit more nitty. What has changed in their style since then? Well, obviouly Tom Dwan still plays aggressive poker as aggressive play will always win you the money in the long term, and sometimes I am truely shocked about elements of his raising (62o) and 3-betting(95s) range. But I feel like that in the past the postflop action was mostly standard all the time, by standard I mean pouncing and hammering very hard at the opponent, getting him to fold somehow. The classic BAAAAAMMMMMM-strategy. This worked very well for some time I guess. But of course, the best players in the world playing in these nosebleed-games constanly analyse the game of their opponents and change their own game according to this. Over the past few month I think I have noticed some major changes:
1) The willingness to make big calls and also big laydowns has increased dramatically.
2) It is rather check/call than bet/fold on the river.
3) The rate of continution bets, especially in 3-bet-pots, has decreased.
4) Pot control has a bigger influence on the game than it used to have. [e.g. prf.rs in pos. with KTo, BB defend, flop T 5 2 two spades, BB check, prf. aggr. conti bet, BB call, turn 5, no spade, BB check --->prf.aggr. check behind] This is a pretty conservative play and I would not have expected Tom Dwan to make plays of that kind.
But I guess it is a rule in poker that you can only win if you constantly think about, change and most important, improve your game. This way you constantly keep your opponents guessing. I am looking forward to keep track of the canges in the poker world that are still to come and what I can use from what I see to stick it into my own game.
In general I feel like it is this changing nature of the game of poker that fascinates me so much. It is never quite black and white. You can never be sure about anything. That is tough. But, If you are good at it, you can make life much tougher for your opponents than it is for you.
Cheers and all the best,
- Roland Fritz
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